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The reason you and everyone else got it wrong is exactly the kind of thinking you espouse in this article. You assume that Putin made this move for economic reasons and that his economy will suffer so it is a bad move. YOUR ARE THINKING LIKE A 21ST CENTRUY ECONOMIST!! You need to start thinking like a 19th or early 20th century despot

This invasion has nothing to do with economics, although Putin's stranglehold on European energy and Biden's anti-oil polices limits any sanctions the west imposes to a cruel joke. This invasion is about the honor and glory of restoring the former Soviet Union and restoring Russia's place in the world as a superpower.

Putin is succeeding brilliantly at this and as long as the west in addicted to his oil and gas, all they can do is whine. Putin does not have to understand economics. You have to understand power. And with $100+ oil., his economy will do just fine.

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I almost completely agree with your comment apart from one particular military axiom- the sinews of war are infinite money. I even agree with your prognosis on Russia's financial condition, but strictly in terms of the short-term. In the longer term Russia will collapse, just as the Soviet Union collapsed before it.

In my previous article I argued for rapprochement with Saudi Arabia over the Jamal Khashoggi affair. Even before the current crisis, it would have been a simple matter of a State Dinner with Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, but given the changing circumstances I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of making the Saudi oil flow freely has risen considerably. In addition, I imagine every effort is currently being made to ramp up production globally and outside of the Middle East, I would expect to see movement in Nigeria and Venezuela in particular.

I would expect to see major moves in European countries towards shale gas production- in the UK we came very close to utilising this technology in association with companies like Cuadrilla, but in the end public pressure won out. Given rising energy costs we are likely to see this decision revisited, and I imagine several European countries will do the same.

I perhaps overstressed the economic side of the argument. The diplomatic issue is telling, plus one has to consider that with the free and readily available population-wide distribution of small arms, Russia will quickly find itself locked into an occupation of attrition which will quickly turn the mood in Russia. With the Russian military death toll rapidly mounting and perhaps a greater degree of support for civilian casualties which are non-Muslim, Russia will quickly find itself becoming embroiled in a conflict every bit as unpopular as Afghanistan.

Don't get me wrong- Putin remains popular with those old enough to remember the glory days of the Soviet Union and there is also a larger demographic which will support Putin, but as it becomes clear that support for Russian occupation is by no means as popular as it proved in specific regions in the East of the Ukraine, the mood will begin to turn drastically. Russian media has of course been strongly supportive of Putin's recent moves, even to the point of appearing positively gleeful with the invasion of Ukraine, but as it becomes clear the absolute and ongoing disaster in which their country has become embroiled, much of his support within the broader population will collapse.

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I almost completely agree with your comment apart from one particular military axiom- the sinews of war are infinite money.

If you are a dictator, you can choose to give that money to the people in terms of social services or you can choose to spend it on military adventures. If you do not care about your people you have plenty of money. Particularly since Europe is paying him to wage that war buying $90+ oil

This is the fourth day of the war and all of the talking heads are talking about how well the Ukrainians are doing. It takes longer to conquer a country than four days. It took the U.S. three weeks to get to Bagdad against a far inferior foe. And I believe the Ukrainian numbers regarding Russian casualties and tanks destroyed about as much as I believe that the moon is made of green cheese. Putin has yet to launch a major offensive against Kyiv.

In war, the first casualty is the truth

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It's funny you mention the Iraq analogy. If I was the leader of Ukraine I would still be handling out weapons to civilians, I would have created a grey ops infrastructure years ago, composed of ammo dumps and officers and NCOs with no media or social media presence- with a view to fighting an insurgency capitalising on the ongoing training of civilians to fight an insurgency lasting years.

I have to say- despite the fact that we disagree on this issue on a great many things, I have enjoyed our engagements and have learned a lot from your perspective. Thanks for your time and perspective.

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I have no expertise in these matters, but here goes: This article outlines Putin's Russian Orthodox religious reasons, based on events in 988 CE, for wanting to own or at least control Ukraine. "Putin's spiritual destiny", by Giles Fraser: https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/ .

In his scheme of things, everything depends on regaining Ukraine and especially Kiev (Russian pronunciation - for us, please, the Ukrainian Ky'iv). The Russian Orthodox Church and so, I guess, a majority of Russians share the same view. I have not read any MSM reports of the Russian Orthodox Church objecting to the invasion.

Patriarch Kirill could easily have objected to the invasion on 2022-02-24: http://www.patriarchia.ru/en/db/text/5903803.html . Perhaps he is doing his best to avoid a dose of novichok - as, quite likely, are Putin's apparently hesitatingly "Yes" men on his security committee. Patriarch Kirill calls only for people to overcome their divisions and not kill civilians.

According to Giles Fraser, the Russian Orthodox Church split from all other Orthodox churches when the Ukrainians separated from them, and were supported by HQ in Constantinople.

So in Putin's mind, he can enjoy yanking the West's chain, menacing everyone with his nuclear weapons, sending in hundreds of thousands of soldiers as expendable thugs with cruise missiles, bombers and tanks, to restore Christendom in the world with Russia as its true leader, centred in Kiev.

If the West had the guts to stop buying Russian hydrocarbons and mining output, for years, and to stop selling everything - especially machinery and semiconductors - to Russia, then the country would collapse to the extent that it couldn't use China to bypass these import restrictions. I assume that Russian military equipment uses home-grown semiconductors. However, no country can compete internationally or even run a 3G or 4G cellphone system, or make such phones, without access to chips from a handful of leading semiconductor manufacturers. China probably has the capacity to design and make these - though not absolute leading edge chips with smaller than 14nm design rules due to the USA and others denying them access to EUV lithography equipment, which is made by only one company, ASML in The Netherlands.

What are the Russian oligarch's women doing to do without their imported baubles and trips to Paris and ski resorts? What are the oligarchs going to do with grumpy womenfolk or without them at all if they decamp to more convivial countries?

The whole purpose of being an oligarch is to ensure a supply of such women.

Already, the oligarchs - who seem to be less pious than Putin - are griping about invasion-driven restrictions on their lifestyles. Imagine not being able to sail their mega-yachts into casino harbours as they please!

How is Putin going to survive without his cashed up and happy oligarchs?

I think most people can be forgiven for not thinking that Putin would do something as blatantly harmful to Russia's standing as this. Rightly or wrongly, few understood how this is not about relations and trade as the West conceives of them. It is to a large extent about something else, which makes such things as massive death tolls and reputational costs seem like minor considerations.

It seems reasonable to speculate, as that august journal the Daily Mail does: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10551251/Did-Covid-send-Putin-mad.html that COVID-19 that infection and/or the lockdowns and general weirdness has negatively affected Putin's judgement. I recall that there are seasonal factors involving no-yet-melted ice which make invasion an urgent matter, to be accomplished soon, or a year from now.

The true, tangled, relationship between Russia, as currently defined, and the people and state of Ukraine, in recent years, is surely extremely complex. Yet it is only briefly alluded to in MSM articles. Leonid Ragozin has two recent articles which give some insight into these complexities: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/1/30/putin-no-longer-fears-a-democratic and https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/2/24/is-putins-gamble-on-ukraine-rational .

Googling his name lead to a longer and apparently more sophisticated critique, by Luke Smith, in a journal which is probably a good source of such insights: https://neweasterneurope.eu/2022/02/23/a-response-to-leonid-ragozins-putin-no-longer-fears-a-democratic-ukraine/ - which indicates that Leonid Ragozin is mistaken in many ways.

Who in the West really understands these things? There is no set of facts. The relationship is disputed, dynamic, has multiple facets due to a hundred million people being involved, and guess what? They are not all the same.

Maybe Putin will prevail, be a hero in his land, and Russia will somehow weather the storm. This will be easy as long as the West thinks it can't do without Russian oil and gas, which seems to be the current position of many governments.

Maybe Putin will do something even crazier (to us). How is he going to live with himself and those who adore him as being a strong, Russian, leader if he doesn't quickly subdue Ukraine and have Kiev and its people's celebrating him becoming Saint Vladimir II. I recall that sainthood is usually a posthumous appointment, but surely some exception could be made in his case.

Maybe the Ukrainians will somehow prevail and more and more Russians will be aghast at the killing and the political, economic and religious isolation their leader has forced them all into. I read somewhere that "most Russians know, or are related to, someone in the Ukraine". I assume this goes beyond the 18% or so who are Russian speakers. I have also read that many Russians in Ukraine are not so keen on Putin either.

In the long term, it is hard to imagine this invasion being a stable, sustainable, path forward for Russia. The parallels to Nazi Germany are so scary that I think the strongest possible isolation steps should be taken. Some argue they would be ineffective, counter-productive etc, or raise the price of gasoline in the USA too much in an election year.

Anything less would encourage China to invade Taiwan. If either invasion succeeds then we are stuffed. No-one can handle the costs and tension of isolating the whole of China and Russia from the rest of the world. We would have to accept that we depend on massive trade with two thoroughly successful dictatorships, nuclear armed and in cahoots.

I don't think any of these could be ruled out. The man-made disaster of the global response to COVID-19 proves beyond doubt that it wrong to assume that the people who control whole countries have a clue what they are doing.

Did Russia really want to join NATO in the early 1990s? In his first article above Leonid Ragozin indicates that they could have been invited, but were not: "The question of why integrating Russia, with its enormous nuclear arsenal, back in the 1990s was not a number one priority for the West, still remains unanswered.". I have no idea whether integrating Russia into NATO and the EU was a possibility then. If it was, then to what extent was the US armaments industry behind this not being pursued?

Considering the debt situation, inflation and imminent economic corrections, slow-boil environmental stressors and increasing prevalence of weather-driven disasters, aging nuclear-armed dictators driven by the prospect of religious-national glory on millennium time-scales is the last thing we need.

Perhaps enough wiser minds in Russia will see the folly of what Putin has started and make his reign untenable. Perhaps the same process will occur in China. Not everyone is as hell-bent on righting thousand year old wrongs as these aging leaders

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Great comment. You raised a lot of points that I overlooked. I will have to go away, read and digest.

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> it all but ensures the resurgence of American and the West’s political and economic power over the long-term

I don't follow your reasoning Geary. There's still nothing like conquering a neighbor to demonstrate your power and resolve and credibility. As a purely monetary calculation I don't think there can be much doubt that the invasion is a looser, but I think Putin is interested in a show of muscle and ... well, I suppose there's still the tiny chance that he will have his ass kicked but it doesn't seem likely. Successful invasions have always been tonic to despots, no?

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Diplomatically and economically most of the world's growing discomfort towards America's role will reverse. There is nothing like the shadow of existential threat to reset the diplomacy and economics- and this will have profound consequences for America's growing strength. Many European countries will see a massive shift towards greater defence procurement, with spending likely to rise from an anaemic 2% of GDP to around 5%.

Quite apart from being a boon it the American defence industry, such spending is a boon for economies compared to other areas like welfare or social spending- because whilst the latter may appear humane, it creates long-term social conditions which are corrosive to a country's economy and social cohesion. Labour is a basic need (although further up Maslow's hierarchy of needs it can lead to more fulfilled self-actualisation)- without it a nation atrophies and degenerates. The shift towards greater self-reliance in core areas of the economy, as well of the multiplier effort of military spending will do much to recover Western decline.

To give you an idea of the scale of such investments, when Rover came under threat in the UK, although the plant itself only employed 6,000 workers, their parts and supply base accounted for a further 100,000 jobs and it was estimated that roughly a million jobs were at risk in the broader regional economy. Don't get me wrong- all government spending is inherently wasteful and inefficient, but if one was forced to choose one type of government spending over another, then this would be exactly the type of spending to aim for, if you really wanted to improve people's living standards.

I agree with you on Russia- at least in the short-term, before the attrition of a forced occupation and armed resistance is fully felt- but over the long-term, Russia will find it has bitten off far more than it can chew. Think about the internal dissention the war in Iraq ultimately sowed in America. Despite being distinct as a culture, Ukrainians are still largely Christians and Orthodox- sympathy for their plight will galvanise the young in particular in Russia. I wouldn't be surprised if within the next ten years we begin to see internal violent dissent within Russia.

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I hope you're right.

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Thanks for the link to the Konstantin Kisin interview, Geary. He often has interesting things to say. It's funny, maybe he and President Zelensky are both examples of how comedians -- with their insights into the human condition -- can be surprisingly knowledgeable in the political sphere. I have to admit I also thought that Putin was merely posturing over Ukraine, jockeying for concessions from NATO. However, I am also unsurprised now that he has invaded. It has seemed to me for a very long time that he is an utterly amoral character. Maybe all politicians are, but with Putin it goes to the bone. As Alexei Navalny quipped in a court hearing, he will go down in history as Putin the Poisoner. In fact, it's where he's at his most creative -- he must have a veritable Baba Yaga's cauldron from which he has conjured dioxins, nerve agents, and radionuclides. And while some of the poisonings may have been for genuine political gain, such as Yushchenko in Ukraine and Navalny himself, the Litvinenko and Skripal poisonings seem more like pure vindictiveness. They also seemed specifically designed to taunt the West and show that he, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, could act with impunity when and where he liked. If the tragedy in Ukraine is ever to have a silver lining, I hope it will be to show the true face of Putin to his domestic audience and hasten his departure from the political stage.

A slight bone to pick: the idea that the EU was being truculent over Northern Ireland and the GFA seems like an astonishing type of myopia peculiar to UK commentators. In the four years that the House of Commons spent in an uproarious political punchup, attempting to lecture each other on what sort of Brexit the British public had actually voted for, Irish politicians were tramping the corridors of power in Europe making allies. They perceived -- entirely correctly -- that Westminster hadn't the slightest interest or any deep knowledge of the political problems that Brexit would cause for the island of Ireland. And they were right. We had the astonishing spectacle of a member of the ERG insisting on radio that he (and all British people) were entitled to Irish passports. We had a Secretary of State for Northern Ireland who thought that Unionists were people who wanted Irish reunification! The cluelessness of senior British politicians beggared belief. The broader EU may not have been overly concerned about Ireland either, and Macron was pushing to use the situation to bargain Ireland into accepting corporate tax reforms. But ultimately they quite rightly listened to the concerns of the country that was a continuing member of the bloc, and not the one that was exiting.

It was never about punishing the UK. The implications of Brexit for Northern Ireland were signposted clearly and often in the Brexit negotiations. Theresa May attempted to come to a sensible compromise but it was ultimately rejected by hardliners in her own party. And there is a certain irony that the NI Unionists who helped sink her are now the most vociferous complainers about the resulting situation that they themselves voted for. But then, Boris Johnson had promised them that there would never be border checks on the Irish Sea ... shortly before he introduced exactly that. Though lately he does seem to have a certain amnesia about his duties under the Northern Ireland Protocol that he negotiated.

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I largely agree with you on the ignorance of Tory politicians on Brexit, but one has to concede that it was perfectly feasible that Northern Ireland could have had the best of both worlds in a post-Brexit world- able to trade equally with the EU and the UK mainland- both of which were required to preserve the spirit of the Good Friday agreement. It might have required a bureaucracy to endure that NI wasn't being used as a clearing house for British goods and financial services.

That being said, I can understand the reasons for the politicians in Europe's refusal to deny this possibility. We live in a world of cynical realpolitik, and they were well aware that the sheer ignorance and ineptitude of leading Brexit figures could be leveraged to blame the British for a disaster for which they could have easily presented a ready solution.

Ironically, this also represented the best hope for peace in Ukraine. It could have been a special trading zone able to trade equally with the EU and Russia, without tariffs or regulatory restrictions (but also would have required regulatory compliance). It also would have required the long-term commitment to not join NATO- but it could have also provided a useful buffer zone to the region. However, like NI, none of the parties were interested in a solution.

The EU wanted to preserve their pure evil protectionism. Protectionism for medium to high value manufacturing labour is Enlightened self-interest, the EU's Common Agricultural Policy is, other than similar American subsidy and trade protectionism, perhaps the principal reasons why Africa didn't begin to exit absolute poverty decades earlier. Implementing the Doha Development Round, for example, was economically proven to do $1,000 of economic good, in raised living standards and prosperity, for every dollar spent on compensating Western farmers. IN combination with access to birth control and education for women in the Developing World, it could have transformed the world and completely changed the population levels.

Of course, a mixture of Socialism in the Developing World, Keynesian economics and the selling of statist Western systems of governance which the Developing World were also disastrous, as was the practice of revenue capture and levels of taxation insisted upon by the IMF and other supranational organisations- but make no mistake, EU agricultural protectionism was a human evil for which we are still paying the consequences. It was one of the things Tony Blair actually got right- he argued against it at the EU level. It would have been disruptive, but with the rapid and faster growth of a global affluent class, the West's farmers could have focused on value farming- high value branded goods and emerging consumer preferences like the market for fresh, local and organic.

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Of course, with Ukraine we also now know Putin had no interest in a special trading zone.

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We like to regard our politicians and leaders as 'rational' beings in possession of more information and advice than us. This is not necessarily the case and emotions and beliefs often play a more significant role than facts. Thus your belief that 'independent' sources were more 'reliable' than mainstream media. This indeed can be and often is the case but it isn't always so. The reverse is frequently so (this is the trap that those who believe that the US election was 'stolen' fall into).

With Putin certain historical situations provided a playbook. The invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia and the Sudeten Germans were all indicators of how things might play out. China is shrewder here and knows that to support this kind of action is not beneficial. Currently President Xi's advisers are holding the line. Putin has never been rational, logical yes but operating from an emotional base. To him strength has always been paramount and within a closed world view he is incapable of admitting other views. He understands economics perfectly well but just doesn't assign any importance to them except as a tool to obtain control.

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'He understands economics perfectly well but just doesn't assign any importance to them except as a tool to obtain control.'- a great way of viewing his worldview, but he is wrong on this one. During the Second World War German actuaries ran an analysis which predicted the early successes of the Axis powers, their ultimate defeat and the subsequent eventual rise of Germany and Japan as a preeminent world powers, with incredibly potent economies.

This is not to say that economics doesn't have its fair share of weaknesses- the more modern forms of economics tend to favour financialised economies over real, productive economics, which was probably the single most important root cause in the decline and eventual fall of the British Empire- civilisations always decline when value becomes dissociated from price in the pursuit of short-term profit. Most modern economists also tend to underrate the value of labour- the Ford Principal- not conceding that economic conditions are optimal when there is a balance between the power of labour and capital. But when economics is constrained to the study of resources, both financial and real, it is the key to determining the course of the clash of civilisations.

To quote another military axiom- amateurs worry about tactics, professionals worry about supply. Without an understanding of the economics which undergird logistics any military endeavour is ultimately subject to the doom of reversal. It's why military professionals revere Grant. Had Hitler understood logistics he would have focused upon the area surrounding Moscow- it was the central rail hub for the entirety of the Soviet Union's transport capacity and ability to mobilise and move troops. A strategy of containment and curtailment, backed by the aerial bombardment of Soviet railheads would have changed the course of the war, at least in the East. He focused upon resource-mindedness at the expense of supply and logistics- in this case those of the enemy.

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It is unlikely that the strategy you describe would have proved sufficient. In fact, there is research to show that economically strategic bombing was hideously expensive and detrimental to the bombing country's economy. Hitler did have that aspect of economics right. Returning to Putin and the invasion. Putin understands strength and force to be the major elements in the conduct of international relationships. Economics are one of the tools which enable the projection of strength and force to be successful. There's an enormous amount of waste in Putin's kleptocracy and it is more this latter element which is likely to cause problems. Putin needs to buy off his supporters and can't necessarily allocate the resources he should to the invasion. What he has been able to allocate may prove sufficient but at significant cost in other important areas, trust, credibility, human lives and Russian prestige. Ironically, the invasion rather than strengthening Russian power and authority has degraded it.

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'In fact, there is research to show that economically strategic bombing was hideously expensive and detrimental to the bombing country's economy.'- I wasn't talking about strategic bombing, but rather the tactical bombing of railheads and trains- with the aim of neutralising the Soviet Union's ability to transport troops and armaments through the central hub of the Moscow rail network upon which the overwhelming majority of the Soviet's ability to transfer material and men over anything other than local distances depended.

You might well have a point though- Zhukov was well aware of the danger, which was why he amassed all of his strategic reserves in the area. Plus, as a strategy it would have depended upon focusing more troops and armour in Army Group Centre at the planning stage- something which Hitler was dead set against. It also would have required a faster pace to avoid the fall rains, and the more rapid conversion of rail gauges from the Russian to the European gauges by labour battalions- or else the Nazis tactical bombers would have been stuck in their forward air bases, unable to mount significant operations deprived of their coal conversion dependent aviation fuel.

Still, this approach was far superior to the one pursued in Operation Barbarossa, and stood a far greater chance of success. It would have required one of the more strategic logistics orientated generals to lead- although Guderian and Manstein had proven themselves by far the most capable tank generals of WWII, their thinking was limited to a purely tactical approach- both depended heavily upon momentum and encirclement for their victories- it would have been counterintuitive for them to hold their armour in strategic reserve, standing off from Moscow simply waiting for Zhukov to commit, for the counter attack and inevitable encirclement far from the impediment of urban terrain.

'Ironically, the invasion rather than strengthening Russian power and authority has degraded it.'- my point exactly. If anything, I overestimated Putin's geopolitical acumen. Previous conflicts have seen his popularity soar- but a combination of long and protracted attrition, and greater Russian sympathy for the plight of largely white Christian civilians, is likely to sap his popularity like an open wound over time. I also don't think they will buy that the sheer levels of resistance can be attributed to neo-Nazis and fascists, even though these groups are active in modern day Ukraine.

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Today, September 3, year of grace 2022, what do you think of your article?

Rhetorical question. Don't need to know your answer to it, but i hope in my heart that you are at least a little bit embarrassed and drew some conclusions.

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They say that when you have to eat crow you should do it right away and make it quick. We accept your apology, Geary. Everybody’s got to be wrong about some things and you’ve always shown a commitment to honesty. I’d rather read commentators who were willing to admit mistakes than ones who somehow got everything right.

Perhaps one of the easiest mistakes to make in foreign affairs is assuming your adversaries will always do whatever is in their own self-interest or always make clever moves. But Britain and the US don’t have a monopoly on making mistakes.

“ Recently, I began to research an essay on how to defend the Enlightenment, and I found that not only did the Ottoman Empire adopt a free market approach in many areas like sea trade, but so too did many parts of Hindu India at many times. Ancient China went through phases of free market economies interposed with more Statist periods. Without exception, in ancient China and elsewhere the free market periods were more prosperous and led to stronger civilisations, with the encroachment of Statism into the economy leading to periods of impoverishment, and a weaker and more decrepit civilisation.”

You’re sounding more and more like free market fundamentalist! I mean that as a compliment.

“ Don’t get me wrong, Western debt, both private and public is a monumental problem. The ready supply of fiat money into the economies of the West during the pandemic, through quantitative easing and the application of Modern Monetary theory has forever proven the concept as an unsound economic theory, fatally flawed. ”

I could hardly agree more. Debt isn’t a problem until it is. I seriously wonder whether a debt crisis of epic proportions could be a Talebian Black Swan lurking around the corner.

“ At the same time, it might be time for the West to consider shifting at least some areas or portions of social spending to a funding mechanism which furnishes zero interest debt facilities repayable upon death, rather than through government largesse.”

What do you mean by that? I think I’ve got the idea but wanted to be sure.

“ Ironically, this will only strengthen the West- because although government commissioning will never be able to match the market in terms of efficiency, the allocation of labour and capital, and value for money, spending on any form of infrastructure, whether through direct investment in the military or in military or civilisation innovation, at least has the benefit of still being a more efficient allocator of resources than social spending or welfare. This was the lesson of the NASA era and America’s military spending during the Cold War under Keynesian economics- it may have been incredibly wasteful and inefficient as an allocator of capital, but the jobs and productive economics which it generated was at least preferable to the social spending instituted under Johnson’s War on Poverty. This reallocation of government funding towards spending designed to help people directly, rather than the previous spending which at least had the benefit of producing gainful employment for so many citizens as a useful by-product of military and innovative strength at least had the benefit of being immensely superior, in an economic sense, to the enfeebling welfare which succeeded it.”

I also agree with that.

“ China has the bomb of a declining youthful population waiting to go off in their economy. They call it the 421 problem- the inevitability that eventually one adult son or daughter will need to take care of the needs of two retired parents and four retired grandparents.”

That’s the crux of it. However, for the next decade I still think China is far more dangerous and powerful than Russia and I’m not so sure a Taiwan invasion would blow up in their faces (as much as I sincerely hope such an invasion doesn’t happen).

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