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Good stuff again Geary. As a progressive, you've definitely helped me understand the "Nordic Model" - I admit I had thought these countries were more 'socialist' than they are. I am curious - where did you get the number 42 from? I'm not doubting you, I've just never encountered a definitive number before.

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The American definition of socialism seems to somewhat differ from the rest of the world's definition of socialism. For the rest of us, state ownership of the means of production tends to be the benchmark. I wouldn't classify more comprehensive social safety nets as necessarily socialist. The 42 figure came from a Joe Rogan podcast with the CEO of Whole Foods, but I did quickly check it against a Wikipedia source.

Remember, communism is the natural progression of socialism, because of its inherent tilt towards totalitarianism, so communism would be included in this figure. As an interesting side note, both Sweden and India oscillated between periods of socialist influenced government and Keynesianism in the post WWII period, with predictably stagnant economies. It was only when they both embraced the free market in the nineties that both rapidly began to experience rapid economic growth.

This doesn't mean they abandoned their ethos or their social programs- India still has its rice dole, and Sweden still has its social safety nets. But it does mean a different attitude towards capital and tax policy.

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This should be engraved at the entryway of every place where governments discuss and decide policy:

"It is far better to base social progress movements on our Common Humanity, rather than dividing us up into arbitrary groups and asking the perceived dispossessed to unite against a Common Enemy. With the common humanity approach we get the successes of MLK and the Civil Rights movement. With the common enemy approach we get the Chinese Struggle Session, the Soviet denunciations that led to the Gulags."

42 failed experiments of rebuilding a society based on an extreme collectivist policy. It simply reinforces "someone" has skin in the game of seeing assets divested from "people", uploaded to government and downloaded to government cronies when the collectivist state fails as it must. An asset concentration strategy - as can see by the A) Chinese billionaires, their kids in Canada "Daddy bought a corporation for me to run, and I love spending the little time I spend in the office bossing people around like a tyrant and the rest trying to circumvent regulations and tax policy!" (if I sound bitter, its because I've lived it) and B)Russian oligarchs. None of these give a f about the actual people. The culture wars are a divide & conquer process if you ask me, the predecessor to consolidation of assets to the government.

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One of the things I really like about the Swedish model is that they have gone through their period of worst case interventionalism, and realised they need a more ergonomic approach to free market capitalism and that long-term welfare is not a healthy life path. Have you seen Johan Norberg's Sweden: Lessons for America? It has to rate amongst my top ten YouTube documentaries.

Something worth thinking about- in the nineties I went through a low point after a compromise agreement with a retail bank. For some reason, although I would have found work- it might not have been entirely appropriate for my abilities, given my low morale. On a whim I signed up for one of the vocational training course which Tony Blair's government was spending a fortune upon. Granted, the course was crap- for call centre workers- but It gave me a much needed boost to morale, which in turn meant I showed keen at exactly the right moment to land a job with the manufacturer I spent a number of years with.

We should be willing to spend money to triage people when they become unemployed, because it's well worth it as an investment- when one considers the alternative cost over the long run. This is why I also believe in targeting criminal reform towards youthful offenders. Scotland achieved amazing results with their efforts at tackling youth knife crime- through a combination of community resourcing and access to economic opportunities.

Of course, what the America activists get wrong is that they see it as an alternative to proactive policing, when every time it has worked the proactive policing was maintained- often giving police officers an extra incentive to get wayward kids into productive programmes.

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I more often hear about the culture clashes between conservative immigrants as they encounter an outwardly permissive society, so looking forward to the Norberg vid and re-evaluating Sweden's social policies.

Oh God! Job loss. My salary never recovered from the credit crisis. It illustrated for me that the value proposition of public sector vs. private sector was no longer valid. As corporations fired, they adjusted salaries and benefits downward, unthinkable for the public sector, so even when jobs started reappearing, they were recharacterized at a lower salary with unpaid overtime, 2 weeks annual vacation. Police and teachers entering the workforce could make close to what I could almost out of the gate after the salary attrition in finance was complete. If I get laid off again I'm selling up and moving to a pleasant backwater. I tried for one of those programs in Canada, but was never able to obtain a place. Def need a better triage process in Canada.

I remember you talking about Scotland's approach in another article you wrote. I do agree that policing and community should be symphony of interaction. I would love to be pleasantly surprised, but I have yet to meet the activist that has a balanced viewpoint. We hear "defund the police" in Toronto from the activists and never-do-wells, meanwhile everyone else, the silent majority who just get on with it really don't feel that way at all. They want the protection police afford.

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"I have yet to meet the activist that has a balanced viewpoint. We hear "defund the police" in Toronto from the activists". Hello Polly, from a fellow Torontonian! I've enjoyed reading your comments, and I'd certainly put myself in the 'balanced view-holding activist' category, although Geary may differ on that point. Personally, I don't know anyone who advocates 'defunding' the police - it's such a stupid term. But I know and agree with plenty of people who advocate for reform - I'd say cops here in TO have a pretty bad track record on mental health issues - mostly through no fault of their own, they have enough on their plates - so that strikes me as an easy place to start. Where are you seeing these huge homeless camps? I haven't been downtown much with the pandemic, but I lived in Chinatown a decade ago and there certainly wasn't a huge problem at that time.

BTW, is your name an X-Ray Spex reference?

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The 2020 reference is indeed a reference to eyesight related issues. As I wear glasses for short sightedness, I thought it was quite ironic- although it could also be taken as a claim of special insight!

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Yes, X-Ray Spex - good catch. Homeless encampments are in Lamport Stadium (50+ tents), Trinity Bellwoods Park has 50-75 tents currently, under the Gardiner was cleaned up. There's people pitching tents pretty well anywhere - Bay Street, random parks like the one south of Queen on Spadina or the one next to St james Church (?) east out on King. I can't say I've been to a park in the last 2 years that doesnt have people camping out.

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I don't agree with the cops having a bad track record though - you have no idea the volume they have to deal with and these aren't easy people to deal with, from personal experience. Many don't want to enter the system, even a system that offers compassion and help.

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nah, I've worked with cops, one of my oldest friends is a cop, and I have a long, personal history with the mental health industry. I do know the subject well. Bill Maher always asks, why are cops so willing to use lethal force when mildly threatened? the job isn't even top-ten most dangerous. here in Toronto, we've got at least half a dozen dead on mental health calls since Sammy Yatin and Andrew Loku. that guy who wandered out of East General hospital in a hospital gown and got shot on the street. two recent calls that ended in deaths for a suicidal young woman and an older dude with dementia. these interactions are all spectacular fails by the cops. it's not anti-cop to call them out when they fail, everyone has good and bad days at work.

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Mental health calls are tough. Toronto police are actively doing more in concert with social workers which is awesome, esp. since family was there, but weapons calls - they don't know how it's going to pan out, and peel has less experience. Everybody reacts differently in the heat of the moment, they're not machines. But not all those you reference above are the cops fault. Politics influence alot of how these things pan out, esp. in the press. I have 5 cops in my immediate family including one whose name you'd know being from the GTA - so I get the inside scoop on alot of this (and 2 teachers). This gang and their privileges colour my perception of overpaid public servants. I still wouldn't want to do that job.

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Is class warfare really better? "Class" is its own odd term, as it's been used to keep people in their place, in their station of life, high class vs. low class, just as miserably as any other form of grouping lots of people by some feature, in this case wealth.

There are lots of reasons for someone to have lots of money, and others to have very little, and their circumstances aren't all the same, nor are all people in that condition of a group identity. A safety net for temporary setbacks during hard times can easily be handled by negative income tax. A safety net for the disabled, sick, elderly or otherwise incapable can too, though many incapable people would need more expensive and personalized attention. A safety net for drug addicts, lazy people and those playing the system would cause many taxpayers to eventually reject based on the "welfare queen" stereotype.

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I really don't understand why governments don't move towards negative income tax. The only hindrance I can see is Pournelle's Law. How horrible would it be if the only obstacle is the fact that an NIT ends much of the bureaucracy?

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Affirming what you say here. The average person who through hard work (and not through cronyism) has built wealth, why don't they deserve it? And yes - a discerning safety net for the disabled, sick, elderly or people suffering a temporary set back (such as unexpected job loss) - well who would argue? I feel where this goes off the rails is in politicians attempting to drum up voters and a surplus of social activists who over-advocate for permissions for never-do-wells that have unintended consequences throughout society. Toronto parks and sidewalks downtown are literally over run with homeless encampments - many of them have been provided actual apartments or a hotel room at taxpayer expense but they can't use drugs/drink and socialize as they wish there, so they prefer to spend summer in the parks. You can literally not find a bench to sit and eat your lunch at, garbage and human waste is found everywhere, not to mention discarded needles because apparently walking to the garbage can is an inconvenience. Tough love for these and there's way too many of them, they are a growing demographic, because they are enabled.

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Very interesting! Thanks a lot!

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The phrase "an insult to lemmings springs to mind!"

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